Topics discussed include: East Lothian; rough nature of district; shopping; childcare; lack of playing space; fines for street football; clubs and associations.

INTVEE lives in a 4-apartment house - kitchen and three bedrooms - with husband and 15 children. INTVER describes the rooms as small and poorly furnished but very clean even though the visit was not pre-arranged. INTVEE thinks the layout is inconvenient especially in the bathroom where there is no separate washbasin and the washbasin overhangs one end of the bath which makes bathing the children (done in pairs) awkward. Also the coal place is situated in the kitchen which means dust goes over food all the time. The doors are painted bright yellow, no peeling wallpaper. They replaced the black leaded grate with a tiled one when they moved in mainly because of the work involved in black-leading. The children are described by the INTVER as healthy, bonny, friendly and lively. INTVEE does not like the district - very rough, many drunks on Saturdays, fights and prevalence of police. She expects to get moved to a 5 apartment house soon but would like a bit of a garden. She gets on well with her neighbours with the exception of an older couple who complain about the children's noise. She shops at Leith Provident towards Granton, she uses a stone of potatoes for one meal, 10 small loaves a day and 10 pints of milk. She complains there is nowhere for the children to play without crossing main roads. A lot of children have been fined recently for playing street football. As her house is an upper one they at least have a covered stair up to the front door where her children can play in wet weather. She thinks the upkeep of the stair should be the responsibility of the corporation, it is impossible for them to maintain it and they have had to pay £15 for it to be professionally painted. She has done all the painting in their house herself, her husband can't do anything that requires delicacy. INTVER notes that she thinks the discipline is pretty fierce but notes that there is also a lot of nursing and cuddling.