INTVEE and her husband have lived in their house for 5 years. She says there is no communication with the private occupants on the other side of the road. While in the queue for the van she heard one private resident make a comment about the corporation tenants having it easy at the expense of people like her paying £4000 for a £3000 house. INTVEE reminded her that some of them had not had an easy life and that some of their husbands had been disabled as result of First World War. Her mother's tenement flat only had three rooms and even though she had two or three children she kept one room as a parlour and would never have any one in it, sometimes not even at new year but every Friday she took everything out and polished and scrubbed every inch of it. It had a paper fan in the fireplace. She used to do domestic work for three hours in the morning and two hours in the afternoon and ran all the way there and back so she would be in for her children coming in from school. She doesn't resent the labour-saving devices the younger generation have but thinks more of the family allowance should go to old people who are expected to survive on miserable pensions. INTVER notes that there is a magi-coal fire, an obviously quite expensive and comfortable three piece suite, a lot of fresh roses from the garden, a radiogram, television set, pictures, mirrors and white covers on the back of the sofa. She has three grown up daughters, two went to fee-paying local authority schools and one to a private school. She had lost a young child to pneumonia. On child rearing she thinks you have to have a system and stick to it, a rigid one where all rewards and penalties understood and when a penalty has been paid no further reference ever made to the misdemeanour. When one of her daughters was late in and her husband said she was also late last week INTVEE would say "last week's past week". INTVER thought this system had been passed to her by her mother like a tangible heirloom. She also told her children that malicious gossip was taboo as was not putting people to the indignity of having to ask for help, if you heard someone was in trouble you went to help. Her father was killed in the First World War leaving her mother with five children. She told her daughters about menstruation at the age of 12. One of her daughter's has no lock on her bathroom door and the children wander in and out. INTVEE put a chair against the door, no one has every seen her in the bath. Her mother once gave her a row for being in her bare feet when there were visitors. She hates Leith because of the dirt, squalor, polluted atmosphere and overcrowding. There was more neighbourliness though with neighbours helping at births and deaths mainly because people couldn't afford doctors or undertakers, now the State provides these services. She has no time for class distinctions and is quoted as saying "There are only two classes - clean and dirty". INTVEE is proud of her family and the job she has done but now feels she is no longer needed, when INTVER says her husband still needs her she replies "Oh no he doesn't really need me. He only needs the food I get for him".